[PROJECT] Flora and Fauna
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====== Wiki Flora and Fauna Master Discussion ======



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Darp darp

So I have the next few days off, amazingly, and between other projects am going to try and work on this. :3 Wanted to see if more people were interested!
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whisper whisper
i'm always interested in the wiki

But yeh seeing as I don't have anything planned for basically all of June I can definitely help with this at some point :D !
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Did someone say flora and fauna research? I may be elementary at coding such things, but I am a passionate researcher of plants, furs, and little creatures.
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I don't think I trust myself with redirecting, reorganising and research, but I've been trawling through the RPG Inventory Icons and adding icons to some pages, specifically:
* Cow
* Fish
* Mole
* Bat
* Goat
* Sunflower
* Maple
* Mint
* etc.

I also added a photo for the star-nosed mole, goat, maple, mint, sunflower and bearberry. ;)

edit: I've decided to dedicate a bit of my spare time to this project. :P For some reason I've become addicted to the wiki. In any case, I'll probably be doing 2-6 pages once every few days. Yeah. :)
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Thanks, Heart! You're awesome 8D
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'Welcome, and hello again. :D

Anyway, I was editing up the Broadleaf Plantain page (http://wiki.soulsrpg.com/index.php?n=Res...afPlantain) and I found out that both the latin name and wikipedia link were completely wrong. (Latin name was for buckwheat, wikipedia link lead to some kind of tree).

I've corrected it, but I just wanted to tell you guys about it here, anyway. :P Just in case it turns out that this a common problem that needs to be dealt with, or something like that.


Just realised that "Clean up everything -- lots of Wikipedia copypasta/possible typos!" probably refers to this. :P Heheh.
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Added pics for:
Silver Haired bat
Skunk
Long-tailed Weasel
All dem Voles
Whales
Pigs
Painted turtle
Insects (Termites + Firefly)
Seals (hooded + harp)
Shorebirds (Atlantic Puffin + Laughing Gull + Common tern)
Poultry (everything)
Salamanders, Frogs, Toads (5 species)
Fish (6 species)
Rodents (4 species)
Snakes (all)

Also:
I added pics for the Goat and Star Nosed Mole pages back in August. ;)
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I am willing to help with flora because Nyla brought seeds with her and I would like to see some of them IC and available for others to find an use. Also what herbs can be used for healing, what ones are poisonous etc. i would like to help as much as I can on this to help my IC writing. There are a lot of soft and hard woods that should also be put in because those who know how to craft bows and things could use soft and hard wood references. I will be adding information as I go. I can't do the coding part but i can at least do the research and help part.
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Hello fellow Wiki Warriors!

Now that it seems as though interest in updating the Fauna (and hopefully the Flora, too) pages has increased, I thought that it would be a good time to revive this ancient topic to have some fresh discussions!

My initial desire when I started updating these pages was for each of them to remain consistent with all others. I had noticed that few of the pages matched, which made finding pertinent information annoying if it wasn't always in the same spot. But then things just kind of spiraled from there and I ended up revamping a few pages and redirecting others to those "master" pages. It seemed silly to me to have an entire page devoted to mink or lemmings, for example, when very little information about them really impacted the characters in 'Souls.

Ultimately, my opinion is that the information that we choose to include within these pages should be concise and pertinent to 'Souls. The full life cycle of Harper Seals is cool, but is it useful to the characters in the game? Instead, knowing their habitats and where they can be found, when seal pups can be referenced, and the time of day they can be found, and how big they are seems like it would be more useful to a broader range of players who then don't have to sift through a bunch of extraneous information to find what's pertinent. If more information is desired, Wikipedia (among a plethora of other sources) has a wealth of information that can be investigated further.

But I might be a minority in that thinking! Again, since it seems there's more interest in updating these pages, I think it's good time to discuss more about what should be included. I would also really like to see these pages be as consistent as possible for ease of referencing important or useful information. What Song has done with my earlier code looks good to me (see Bear page vs Deer page), and I'd be cool sticking with that unless there are other thoughts on layout/info/whatever.

tl;dr
I think that our resource wiki pages should be in a consistent layout and contain concise and useful information that is pertinent to 'Souls and the majority of characters in the game.

Thoughts? Ideas? Disagreements? Let's get a discussion going so we can finally get these resources updated and useful for everyone!
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I love the cleaner and better laid out format of your recent responsive tables, Mandi, especially when compared to the old/original page layouts! I only fixed a few things based on recent discoveries with working the responsive code, and cleared up a few lines/headers for lighter page scrolling and for ToC formatting. So, the bulk of the work was all you<333

I very much like the format that you have! It's basic and to the point. Most players aren't going to go into any large detail when they include a random, "lesser" animal in their thread, so, just having the basics, I think, is good enough! If anyone wants to know more, well, there's a link to the Wikipedia page (or just Google it) if they want more details. The wiki snippets give you enough to know what you need to without creating an unnecessary amount of information that won't really be used. Size, when/where they can be found, and their general behavior and food sources can help with enriching things like hunting threads or threads of peril!

Alongside your Breeding/Birthing Season bullets, I included a "Gestation" one for the natural-High Speech/Apex predator pages that I edited on simply because of previous NPC usage and played critters. I don't think players will need to know how long an elk is pregnant since they're mostly used as prey animals. Whereas, someone who has a domestic cat familiar for an NPC and wants to have kittens would be a more likely case.
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I LOVE how these pages look!! I think they hit that perfect mark of being not too detailed but giving enough for folks to reference easily.

It might be cool to add a "notable encounters" section to include threads where these animals are used/have a large impact, such as character deaths or grievous injury, or even instances where Preybot was used.
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Oh yeah, I appreciate the heck out of you fiddling with the responsive design code & reformatting, Song. <3 The Birds of Prey page is especially visually appealing to me. I've been dinking around with the Bats page and I haven't really found a way to format it so its more streamlined. I think keeping in line with that format is perfect! I particularly like having some key takeaways (year-round residents & specific species) right in the intro for longer pages. That would work well for our other Birds pages, Mustelids, and Rodents too maybe.

Good idea with including gestation for the species where it would be useful for players to know! That will definitely be good to have when the Livestock page is updated, too! I think its completely reasonable and expected that certain pages/species are going to have some information that other pages/species won't (migration habits, for example), so not every page is going to fit into an perfectly consistent template (as much as my perfectionist brain want them to goshdarnit). But differentiating extraneous information vs specifically useful to 'Souls is the goal, imo!

Mel Wrote:It might be cool to add a "notable encounters" section to include threads where these animals are used/have a large impact, such as character deaths or grievous injury, or even instances where Preybot was used.
I really like this idea! That would be a wonderful addition, particularly if players are curious how other characters have interacted with particular species. :D Totally something we could include!

ETA: Fiddled with the Bats page to include a "notable encounters" section. I thought it would made sense to nest the Individuals and Encounters sections under the same header. I titled the header in the Bats page "'Souls Compendium" but I'm open to other suggestions (and coding formats)! I divided the Encounters section into Neutral Territories and Pack Territories, but that might not be necessary?
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